QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?

Straight up? HELL NO

This draft kinda stinks at QB. I wouldn't. I don't imagine the titans would offer that either.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?

Straight up? HELL NO

This draft kinda stinks at QB. I wouldn't. I don't imagine the titans would offer that either.

If they did they would be laughed at for months in the media.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?

Straight up? HELL NO

This draft kinda stinks at QB. I wouldn't. I don't imagine the titans would offer that either.

If they did they would be laughed at for months in the media.

Who the 49ers or the Titans?

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?

Straight up? HELL NO

This draft kinda stinks at QB. I wouldn't. I don't imagine the titans would offer that either.

If they did they would be laughed at for months in the media.

you doing laugh emojis on the WZ? it's a bit of a stretch to refer to that as being laughed at 'in the media'

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dude, you can like a player and understand there's limitations. This is why there's so much disconnect in here. It doesn't have to be like or dislike. There's a whole other area…it's not just black or white. Just isn't.

IMO football is a big person sport. You have some of the most athletically gifted rocked up athletes in the world playing it. There's freaking 260lb DL running a 4.4 now.

there's only 32 starting spots in the world to play QB at this level. One of the main attributes is obviously throwing the football. Much like other positions there are thresholds for everything. We got some outliers, but those don't make up the majority of successful players.

IMO (like Smokey) Brock does a some things very well. It's the processing, anticipation and the ability to move and create behind the LOS. That is amazing stuff and why he's a good QB.

He does have limitations, and by limitations I mean things that he can't really improve upon. His size, from a measurable standpoint is barebones bottom of the league. That includes his hands. People trying using Brees with Brock, but Drew had some of the biggest hands in football. Dude could spin it. Brock is top 10 in batted balls at the LOS, not all are on him but some of it is because of size. We got weather issues on top of that. His arm is very much bottom of the league among starting caliber QBs. Just is. He's ranked 28th the past two seasons in tight window passes. That is absolutely part of not having a plus arm.

now let's talk about the intangibles. Dude has this is spades. He's smart, he's a leader, he puts in all the work you want your QB to do. I think he's pretty damn tough. He can stand in the pocket and deliver a pass while getting crushed. He's not a Darnold like QB who "sees ghosts", he very much can dust it off and go to the next play. I also haven't seen much as far as the clutch factor goes. I think he has 4 4th QR come from behind games. Two in the playoffs, mostly using his legs there. It wasn't good in the 4th QR this yr. Personally I would like to see more of that. More of putting the team on his back. He's still young there and can grow from that standpoint.

I say all that showing you there's things to like and think that make you pause. End of the day he's currently our best option and is still young. He's gonna get paid, I like others hope they have it setup to where they can have outs if things go south. No one wants that because we all want that FQB for a while. We should always be on the lookout for a QB just in case…much like any position.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
If INDY and NE allowed Brady/manning to go negotiate with another team, they would have probably gotten more than their teams gave them…along with numerous 1sts rd picks going to INDY/NE.

I think some of us are saying that would not be the case with Brock. Some posters have said if he wants to be the highest paid player in football, say no thanks you can play out your rookie deal and we can renegotiate after that.

Theres are all just scenarios, not saying they're likely at all.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?

Straight up? HELL NO

This draft kinda stinks at QB. I wouldn't. I don't imagine the titans would offer that either.

If they did they would be laughed at for months in the media.

Who the 49ers or the Titans?

Titans for offering. Would immediately turn to 9ers if accepted

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?

Straight up? HELL NO

This draft kinda stinks at QB. I wouldn't. I don't imagine the titans would offer that either.

If they did they would be laughed at for months in the media.

you doing laugh emojis on the WZ? it's a bit of a stretch to refer to that as being laughed at 'in the media'

Only you would be dumb enough to consider this media.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

these are 9 figure deals. do you really think the player's agent and the club don't have any intel or thought process on what he would get paid on the market? guys in college who leave for the draft, get intel on where they might get picked (and so forth). i guarantee on 9 figure investments, both the agent and club are gonna have a lot of good information on what he's worth league wide. the agent wouldn't be doing his job if he signed purdy for way below market, same with the club if they pay way above market. we literally just did this with BA, we didn't agree right away, and we told him to shop around. his agent gets to call other clubs and work out a deal, once a deal is worked we can figure out trade comp, or match the deal. this isn't josh dobbs rocket scientist stuff.

Of course they do. The intel is the contracts of comparable players.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?

Straight up? HELL NO

This draft kinda stinks at QB. I wouldn't. I don't imagine the titans would offer that either.

Even if there was another Lance in this draft, why would the 49ers trade Purdy for that?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
these are 9 figure deals. do you really think the player's agent and the club don't have any intel or thought process on what he would get paid on the market? guys in college who leave for the draft, get intel on where they might get picked (and so forth). i guarantee on 9 figure investments, both the agent and club are gonna have a lot of good information on what he's worth league wide. the agent wouldn't be doing his job if he signed purdy for way below market, same with the club if they pay way above market. we literally just did this with BA, we didn't agree right away, and we told him to shop around. his agent gets to call other clubs and work out a deal, once a deal is worked we can figure out trade comp, or match the deal. this isn't josh dobbs rocket scientist stuff.

Of course they do. The intel is the contracts of comparable players.

that's one bit of information, but again who is comparable? that's opinion. someone can think brock is comparable to mahomes. someone can think brock is comparable to love. someone can think brock is comparable to minshew. (i've seen ppl post on all three in this thread, as a matter of fact). that's a pretty big gap. at the end of the day it's not our answer that will decide, it involves how GMs around the league view it. you just sit and assume oh he's better than love and dak (who were coming off much better years) therefore he gets more than them. i can't say GMs agree with you. those guys were bigger investments, with more tools and coming off stronger seasons. all that factors in.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Even if there was another Lance in this draft, why would the 49ers trade Purdy for that?

you may get lance, you may get mahomes, josh allen, j daniels, or any number of high end round 1 QBs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If Titans offered 1st pick for Purdy, would you guys do it?

Straight up? HELL NO

This draft kinda stinks at QB. I wouldn't. I don't imagine the titans would offer that either.

This idea came up on the Krueg show with Dieter. The thought was trade Purdy to the Titans for the 1st pick . Then trade that pick to the Raiders, so they can draft Cam Ward, for the 6th pick & next years 1st, and so on. It was kind of proposed in jest.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
You don't remember when Payton Manning and Tom Brady received all those offers from other every time they signed a contract?

If INDY and NE allowed Brady/manning to go negotiate with another team, they would have probably gotten more than their teams gave them…along with numerous 1sts rd picks going to INDY/NE.

I think some of us are saying that would not be the case with Brock. Some posters have said if he wants to be the highest paid player in football, say no thanks you can play out your rookie deal and we can renegotiate after that.

Theres are all just scenarios, not saying they're likely at all.

And I think you guys are underestimating a few things.

1. There are a lot of teams who run a variation of Kyle's offense or would like to.
2. That NFL teams care more about winning, especially in the playoffs than fans care about being able to say "we have an elite QB"

Brock is a proven QB in the NFL, certainly a lot more than Jimmy G and Kap were when they got paid.

When you have way less proven QBs getting paid I think teams would definitely open up the wallet for Brock.

Jets, Browns, Raiders, Giants have clear QB needs. All it takes is them thinking they'd rather go with a proven guy over unknowns in the draft. No different than the thought process Shanahan had in 2017.

You also have teams who may not be thrilled with the guys they have - Colts, Steelers, Saints.

Obviously there is a difference between Brady/Manning in their prime but there is still leverage there. Now the 49ers don't have to pay Brock but it would be a really bad look not to reward him for his play given what he's done for them.

Originally posted by genus49:
And I think you guys are underestimating a few things.

1. There are a lot of teams who run a variation of Kyle's offense or would like to.
2. That NFL teams care more about winning, especially in the playoffs than fans care about being able to say "we have an elite QB"

Brock is a proven QB in the NFL, certainly a lot more than Jimmy G and Kap were when they got paid.

When you have way less proven QBs getting paid I think teams would definitely open up the wallet for Brock.

Jets, Browns, Raiders, Giants have clear QB needs. All it takes is them thinking they'd rather go with a proven guy over unknowns in the draft. No different than the thought process Shanahan had in 2017.

You also have teams who may not be thrilled with the guys they have - Colts, Steelers, Saints.

Obviously there is a difference between Brady/Manning in their prime but there is still leverage there. Now the 49ers don't have to pay Brock but it would be a really bad look not to reward him for his play given what he's done for them.

what exactly is proven?

he's coming off a 6-9 year. where the stats were down. the ball velo was down. had a couple injuries. i think all that's proven is he's a functional QB. he proved he belongs in the league.

Originally posted by genus49:
And I think you guys are underestimating a few things.

1. There are a lot of teams who run a variation of Kyle's offense or would like to.
2. That NFL teams care more about winning, especially in the playoffs than fans care about being able to say "we have an elite QB"

Brock is a proven QB in the NFL, certainly a lot more than Jimmy G and Kap were when they got paid.

When you have way less proven QBs getting paid I think teams would definitely open up the wallet for Brock.

Jets, Browns, Raiders, Giants have clear QB needs. All it takes is them thinking they'd rather go with a proven guy over unknowns in the draft. No different than the thought process Shanahan had in 2017.

You also have teams who may not be thrilled with the guys they have - Colts, Steelers, Saints.

Obviously there is a difference between Brady/Manning in their prime but there is still leverage there. Now the 49ers don't have to pay Brock but it would be a really bad look not to reward him for his play given what he's done for them.

Only one way to find out. But it won't get there; Brock is going to get paid